The State of the Boxing Nation
In that we've been gone so long and so much has happened in our absence, I thought I'd start today by airing out my thoughts on a few major stories in our bread-and-butter pursuit here at the Mas, the sweet science.
Cotto v. Margo - The April 12th Cotto/Gomez, Margarito/Cintron card, despite featuring two non-competitive fights, proved to be a great night for boxing in that it set up the kind of Immovable Object v. Irresistible Force bout that, for all the big names floating around out there, was sorely lacking from the remainder of the 2008 schedule. I'm still a little worried that it won't happen for some reason - nothing is signed yet as far as I know and no location has been agreed upon. But still, this bout is a fight fan's dream. Obviously we have a lot of time to mull it over and so I won't get into any deep prognostification right now, other than to say that I lean towards Cotto but with heavy reservations.- Oscar Spars in Front of 27,000 People - I was in the house for this one doing some reportage for The Sporting Blog (you can check those posts here and here and here). On the whole, I thought it was more competitive than expected, particularly early, where I had Stevie winning... I think I had it 3-2 Oscar after 5. Mostly it seemed like a soft outing for The Golden Boy, with some real deterioration of both speed and power on display. How much of it was rust it's hard to say. I was talking to a journalist down on press row who said he'd had a long talk with Floyd Sr. the day before and that Daddy Floyd had told him that he'd hated the Forbes make from the beginning, that Oscar was setting himself up to need a big knockout to come out of the fight looking good and that Stevie was a very difficult guy to knock out or even hurt that much. And that was pretty much the story of the evening, a glorified sparring session in which Oscar decisively won rounds but did little else to impress. Was that a function of Forbes' savvy? Maybe. But I couldn't help feel like five years ago Oscar would have gotten him out of there no problem. I certainly saw nothing to make me think that he'll fare any better in a rematch with Money May.
- Execution - Did Calzaghe/Hopkins even happen? Doesn't that fight almost seem like a mirage now? When I saw Bernard in the ring at the Oscar/Forbes fight, preening around as if he was running the show in an expensive-looking suit and an ill-advised peach shirt, I thought to myself, goddamn man holms is never going to retire. He looked like he might peel that Armani shit off at any moment and get to fighting with somebody just to get some himself some attention. And it's a shame, because after that Calzaghe slap-and-tickle session, I really feel like I don't want to watch another BHop fight. He's tough to read, he makes you look bad, he never lets you hit him square, he fouls the crap out of you and the ref never knows it... all true. He's a marvel, a walking boxing compendium of angles and maneuvers and sneakyass shit. But he doesn't fight to win anymore - he just doesn't have it in him. He was never a thrill-a-minute guy even in his prime, and now, well, now he's excruciating to watch. I hope we've seen his last fight, but I sincerely doubt it. Something tells me that Tito Trinidad thing is going to happen whether we want it or not.
- Money May Disappoints Money-Wise - Did you see this? Wrestlemania's PPV numbers were down this year, a fact that is largely being attributed to Lil Floyd being not nearly the draw that McMahon and Co. thought he would be. Which I think is good news all around, to be honest. I'm all for the circus act, but some active encouragement to get back to basics seems in order for Cash Money right about now.




8 Comments:
Margarito v. Cotto is going to be a barn burner. But I felt that Shane took away Cotto's heart somewhere around the 10th and just too excited to KO him and missed with a bunch of punches. In any case, I give the slight...very slight nod to Margarito. But i'm not sure that Margarito has been in there with a puncher like Cotto...then again, who has?
Rooster, although Shane finished strong against Cotto, I can't say I thought he took his heart. Cotto had the thing won on points (also think he injured a hand) and chose to box a little, a surprising move for someone we're used to destroying mothafuckas, but his prerogative given the situation. Shane is one tough SOB.
The main reason I think Cotto beats Margo is that he's become such a resourceful boxer with such impressive handspeed. Margarito is hard as nails, but he doesn't have tremendous speed or power and he fights at a plodding, predictable pace. Given the evolution of Cotto's skills, I should think he'd be able to fight whatever kind of fight he wanted to in there, pick his spots, etc. If he fights that kind of thoughtful fight, I can't see how he could lose. But if he decides to go toe to toe and fight out who is el mas macho, well, anything could happen. Castillo/Corrales most likely.
I hear you large and you know I respect your opinion...or else why would I come five times a day to a blog that was broken. I think that Margarito throws his punches odd and they almost look like slapping...but he has heavy hands...I don't know if Cotto hurt his hand against Shane as much as Shane was there at the end. Check out that 10th round again. I thought the fight was close still at that point for him to pull up like that. I'm not saying you said that he packed it in...but I just seen it a bit differnt.
Cotto's learning has far exceded what most people thought. He was real economical with his punches and had a stiff jab now which he developed in front of our eyes over the last four fights.
It will be tough...but I just think it is TJ Tornados time...what time is it? Tornado Time! What time is it? Tornado Time!
I'm eagerly looking forward to the Marg/Cotto match although I don't see the outcome as in doubt as many do. As luck would have it, VS' "Legends of the Ring" series was on late last night and they showcased Palomino vs. Benitez. I think the fight will go much in that same vein with the roles of the Mex and PR fighters updated. Marg eill be moving forward and occasionally landing heavy shots. Likewise Cotto will move and land enough to get a decision (he'll be in boxer mode the whole time.) Either way I'd gladly pay to see if I'm wrong.
That fight should make up for the cancelling of Judah/Mosley fight which I'm still sore about. Especially missing Barrios/Juarez just to see Juarez get a scorching knock out for the first time in years.
Oh well, glad you're back, Large!
Yeah glad to see you back up here!
Considering Margarito - Cotto:
I too think Cotto can box it out, I just can't see him doing that for 12 rounds. They will lite it up, leading to only one question: Is Margaritos body as hard as his iron-head?
I really don't think, that Cotto hits much harder than Cintron, and Margarito just walked through Kermits shots, if it was some 106 pounder throwing them. If he can swallow Cottos body shots in the same way, I really see TJ knock Cotto out.
@ Calzaghe-Pavlik: Praying for that fight. Would be a career-bout for both guys not some boring nonsense like rjj-jones. *yawn*.
Man, I was eagerly awaiting this topic. This is the one fight I've been wanting to see matchup wise for over a year now. I really do believe it's a close second to Marquez-Vazquez in terms of guaranteed war.
As for how it plays out...I'm w/ trickster, i think Tony knocks Cotto out. Sure, Miguel can outbox him, but this fight is gonna be on some gladiator-type shit, and i think Margartio has the better chin, heart, and will. He also NEVER stops. Arguments can and will be made for both guys...Who knows? This could be the beginning of the next great trilogy.
And Rooster's dead on about Tony being heavy handed. It looks like he's in slo-mo a lot of the time, but the punches are constantly coming. I mean, he punched Sebastian Lujan's ear clean off his head.
Cotto's jab is definitely key, and if Tony walks through it, he may well take Miguel's heart.
Dudes, the blog is on the fritz again - I did an "on this day" thing about the second Walcott/Marciano fight last week that may be popping any day now. I-berg assures me that we are very close in our move to Word Press and freedom from all this bullshit.
Margo/Cotto is great, man, just great, because I can't remember a fight where the arguments for each were so valid. The way I see them and what they do well, if they could fight an ideal ten fights in a vacuum (where, you know, there was no accumulated damage) each would win five. I think they are that even.
My argument for Cotto basically boils down to that he CAN box it out if he chooses to, and honestly, I think he has bigger fish to fry than Margo. Cotto/Margo is a connoisseur's fight, but it's not a big BIG money thang. Cotto's got the Floyd fight waiting for him out there, and now Oscar's talking Cotto as his farewell bout. That's boocoo bucks too many son. I think when it comes down to it, Cotto will eschew the "el mas macho" route against Margo in pursuit of that money. And I do sincerely think that Cotto is a good enough boxer now, not to mention his power, to handle Margo's onslaught.
As I've said a bunch of times now, if it goes the "el mas macho" route, well, who the fuck knows? All that's for certain is that it will be a ridiculous Corrales/Castillo war and it won't last six rounds. Two dudes at that level of ferocity simply cannot survive toe-to-toe for longer than six.
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