
Man the hits just keep on coming. Two fights like Vasquez/Marquez and Pacquiao/Marquez in the space of two weeks, and now the demise of the Andy Lee juggernaut on Friday Night Fights. I have to say, I get almost more excited by these kinds of bouts than I do the big PPV affairs, these bouts where a young highly-touted prospect gets exposed by some hard-head who doesn't seem to have gotten his copy of the script.
If you didn't watch FNF last night, then you missed a corker - Manny Steward's prized charge, the big-punching Irish southpaw Andy Lee, getting stopped by Contender vet Brian Vera in the seventh-round of an all-out slugfest. Lee knocked Vera down in the first round, but even then he didn't seem to me to be in control of the fight, although credit must be given on that score to Vera's chin, because he took a load of clean straight lefts right down the pike and ate them like a man's man.

And the chins really proved the difference in the fight, because what emerged early on as a pattern of exchange was Vera taking Lee's left to counter with big roundhouse rights, and in those exchanges it was Vera's and not Lee's punches that took a heavy toll. As early as the fourth I started to feel the upset on the way, as it became more and more clear that the Irish prospect's vaunted power simply wasn't enough to stop the hard-charging Vera from getting inside and roughing him up. On that count, Lee proved virtually incompetent, unable to clinch effectively and clueless as to how to handle himself in close quarters. In the fifth, his legs started to go, and then the fight became an all-out war, Lee's left, Vera's right, lather rinse repeat, and suddenly what was supposed to be a walkover was shaping up as an FOY candidate. With sheer determination, Vera seized the upper hand in the fifth and took it with him into the sixth, when he wobbled Lee with one of his big wide rights and the chase was on. Bleeding badly from an eye-cut and staggering backwards around the ring, Lee was just target practice for Vera in the seventh, and that's when the ref put an end to it, a bit prematurely no doubt (on the punch from Vera that sealed the stoppage Lee was firing back a left-hand counter just as the ref stepped in), but I had some sympathy for the referee in that situation, because for the entire minute beforehand Vera had landed one haymaker after another, almost all of them unanswered. The ref probably was at that point where he was thinking, "all right, one more of those and I'm stepping in," and then that one more comes and
that's the one that Lee fires back on.

It didn't look good, but hey, if Manny Steward wasn't complaining, you know it wasn't that bad, because if the stoppage really had been unjust Manny would have been going nuts. What a tough night for Steward. He's been talking this kid up so relentlessly this year, talking about him fighting Winky before the year was out, talking about how he could beat Kelly Pavlik right now. Those are some awfully big words to have to eat, and yet you have to feel like he deserves to eat them with relish after having the audacity to flap his gums so hard about a kid so woefully inexperienced and unskilled as Lee proved himself to be last night. Manny has never been one to shy away from talking very big about his fighters, but in this case, it seems like he should have known better.
Of course, all credit goes to Brian Vera, the only person in the building last night who hadn't read too many of Andy Lee's press clippings. And besides Manny and Lee himself, there were two other big losers of note - Irish boxing, having to suffer yet another highly touted native fighter getting exposed on a very big American stage (following John Duddy's disaster against Walid Smichet on the Klitschko/Ibragimov undercard) and Bob Arum, who recently signed Lee to a big promotional deal. Right now, it seems like he bought himself a lemon.
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Just got done watching the fight off tivo.
Man what a disappointment Andy Lee was tonight. After hearing all the hype and seeing some of his nice KO's on Youtube I really had myself thinking he was the truth. The Kid does have a killer straight left but man he doesn't follow it up with anything.
I could've started a Tony Atlas drinking game with how many times he was telling Lee to throw that right hook.
Bad stoppage when it happened. But I'm a little suprised it didnt happen eariler.
Good fight though.
Boy, didn't see that one coming. Is Manny on the downhill track? First the Taylor debacle, now Lee destroyed and Cintron is next...
Wow, what a brawl. The Right was there all night an Lee just wouldn't throw it.
I wish I could have heard the corner chatter. I can't imagine Manny wasn't telling him to follow with the right.
Vera is a hard man, dang he took some pops.
I hated the stoppage, but you got to protect the kid too.
I'm still shocked this morning. It really hasn't been a very good past 12 months for Steward. Hopefully this is just a setback and not a sign of things to come for Lee. I still think he's an exciting prospect, and he still is. I didn't believe that he was ready for Pavlik (Kelly might've decapitated him last night), or even Wink, so I'm not terribly dissapointed. Just really surprised.
And trick, I'm w/ you on Cintron. Hopefully he won't bawl his eyes out again after another beatdown.
Remember though Manny's still got Wlad, the consensus heavyweight champ, which is a powerful thing to have. He'll be all right. I don't know what the hell's he's doing wasting his time with Aaron Pryor Jr. though - must be doing a favor for his dad.
I think in assessing last night's carnage, a lot of the blame has to be laid on Manny's shoulders, although it's a little hard to say how much, because was that debacle more a case of overestimating Lee's abilities or underestimating Vera. Vera came to fight last night and he was tough as nails, eating those lefts over and over again. He had a look on his face that reminded me of Nate Campbell in the Diaz fight, a look that said, "I don't care what this motherfucker does I'm a get him."
And the main thing that seemed to happen to my eyes was that Lee failed miserably a test that is a pretty bad test to fail as a raw talent - he lost his shit when he got hurt. Really lost it. He could have won that fight easily if he'd kept his cool, but his eggs got scrambled and all his training went right out the window and he ended up in a brawl, a brawl that he was perilously ill-equipped for. I gotta say, I don't think it bodes well for him in the future.
But on the whole, the shit kind of amps me up. I love these kinds of upsets so much - it's so exciting when they're happening, when you're expecting that same old prospect-thumping-on-a-tomato-can and then slowly you see some things and you start thinking, "you know what? the tomato can might win this one." In general, my sympathies are with the guys who are in there to get beat, and last night, well, Brian Vera staged a veritable Boston Tea Party for tomato cans everywhere.
i live about 20 minutes from the casinos...in RI...haha i was on the floor last night...it was great...didnt get to sit near gary sheffield and big daddy kane like winky/soliman...or get to see one of my favs, paulie, capture a world title....but man...never seen that much excitement...the crowd getting behind vera...sucks for lee to get the stoppage as he was returning fire but it probably shoulda been stopped 10 seconds earlier
Ricky, that was a hell of a fight to be at, no doubt. As far as the stoppage, I don't think that will be too big a deal for too long. He was out on his feet. Honestly, I think Manny Steward was probably relieved.
Oh Man... Casamayor. What a fight.... Why didn't Katsidis' cornermen tell him to keep working the body? Talk about a cagey vet. I still don't like him....
i was surprised how poor lee's defense was last night. if vera had any kind of a hook, he could've ended the fight as early as the fourth. as it was, lee matched his low-slung right by consistently dropping his left after punching, letting vera come straight up the middle at will.
manny will no doubt blame the fighter for not following instructions, and badmouth him to the media. seems to be his m o these days. like trick said, kermit is likely to make it 3 for 3.
can we talk about katsidis/casamayor, or is it rude to not wait for you to post about the bout first? man that was fun tonight.
Not rude, never rude, Howard, not at all. But I did just put up my post. And yes, to understate the case somewhat, that was definitely some kind of fun.
Man, I was about to buy an Andy Lee Kronk Gym shirt. Looks like this kid needs a lot more development.
Andy Lee looks a little like Glass Joe in Punchout.
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